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Base Goku and Ultimate Gohan; Fusion
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+ Solid Snake	Jan 5 2014, 06:08 AM Post #46
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Mightiest Gohan Jan 4 2014, 08:20 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 4 2014, 02:27 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 1 2014, 08:45 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Dec 31 2013, 07:40 AM Goku was pumped that a Fusion of Gohan and himself would pulverise Buutenks (we can assume he met a SSJ since the form is more basic). Goku couldn't have meant SSJ against Bootenks because even Bootenks said that he could beat SSJ "Gokan" but didn't wanted to take a chance so Goku meant SSJ3. What you fail to realize is that Buutenks didn't know how big the boost was gonna be he assumed it was gonna be the same as the dance, the same one Goku was confident in using at first, the one Elder Kaioshin doesn't objects just says do you believe Buu is gonna wait for a possible stronger fighter to be born and end him. And even if he didn't want to risk it Gohan's power would have easily overcome Buutenks power due to Goku. The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected=SSJ3 Gogeta (Fusion Dance). The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected (SSJ) = SSJ Gogeta (Fusion Dance).
	Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig SUPER THANKS CELL Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8434874/1/#new Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8435708/1/#new


Mightiest Gohan	Jan 5 2014, 11:37 AM Post #47
Posts: 1,040 Group: Member Member #10,132 Joined: September 6, 2013	xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 5 2014, 06:08 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 4 2014, 08:20 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 4 2014, 02:27 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 1 2014, 08:45 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Dec 31 2013, 07:40 AM Goku was pumped that a Fusion of Gohan and himself would pulverise Buutenks (we can assume he met a SSJ since the form is more basic). Goku couldn't have meant SSJ against Bootenks because even Bootenks said that he could beat SSJ "Gokan" but didn't wanted to take a chance so Goku meant SSJ3. What you fail to realize is that Buutenks didn't know how big the boost was gonna be he assumed it was gonna be the same as the dance, the same one Goku was confident in using at first, the one Elder Kaioshin doesn't objects just says do you believe Buu is gonna wait for a possible stronger fighter to be born and end him. And even if he didn't want to risk it Gohan's power would have easily overcome Buutenks power due to Goku. The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected=SSJ3 Gogeta (Fusion Dance). The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected (SSJ) = SSJ Gogeta (Fusion Dance). That's a pure conjecture. Boohan was confident of beating Gogeta (means SSJ3 because that's his highest form). Goku knew Potara had a greater effect than Fusion Dance so he believed that only Potara is the only way to beat Boohan. There would be no reason for Goku to fuse via Potara if the Fusion Dance was enough to destroy Boohan. He could've simply preferred that.
	Super Buu: So, hotshot! You want to fight Majin Buu? Gohan: Fight you? No. I wanna kill you!


+ Majin Vegeta	Jan 5 2014, 02:13 PM Post #48
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Yup, I doubt Vegeta would prefer Potara and stay with Gokus body for the rest of he's life, if he could instead end thinks up with normal fusion which lasts only 30 minutes at most
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


+ Solid Snake	Jan 6 2014, 07:02 PM Post #49
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Mightiest Gohan Jan 5 2014, 11:37 AM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 5 2014, 06:08 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 4 2014, 08:20 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 4 2014, 02:27 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 1 2014, 08:45 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Dec 31 2013, 07:40 AM Goku was pumped that a Fusion of Gohan and himself would pulverise Buutenks (we can assume he met a SSJ since the form is more basic). Goku couldn't have meant SSJ against Bootenks because even Bootenks said that he could beat SSJ "Gokan" but didn't wanted to take a chance so Goku meant SSJ3. What you fail to realize is that Buutenks didn't know how big the boost was gonna be he assumed it was gonna be the same as the dance, the same one Goku was confident in using at first, the one Elder Kaioshin doesn't objects just says do you believe Buu is gonna wait for a possible stronger fighter to be born and end him. And even if he didn't want to risk it Gohan's power would have easily overcome Buutenks power due to Goku. The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected=SSJ3 Gogeta (Fusion Dance). The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected (SSJ) = SSJ Gogeta (Fusion Dance). That's a pure conjecture. Boohan was confident of beating Gogeta (means SSJ3 because that's his highest form). Goku knew Potara had a greater effect than Fusion Dance so he believed that only Potara is the only way to beat Boohan. There would be no reason for Goku to fuse via Potara if the Fusion Dance was enough to destroy Boohan. He could've simply preferred that. I was a little off but dude it was Buutenks not Buuhan who was confident, and like I said multiple times, Goku was also confident. Afterward, however, Goku was in a bind to fuse with even Hercule so even with the greater effect do you think Gokule was gonna beat Buuhan? I didn't think so. So that greater effect non-sense isn't all that great as you want it to be.
	Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig SUPER THANKS CELL Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8434874/1/#new Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8435708/1/#new


Mightiest Gohan	Jan 6 2014, 09:12 PM Post #50
Posts: 1,040 Group: Member Member #10,132 Joined: September 6, 2013	xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 6 2014, 07:02 PM Mightiest Gohan Jan 5 2014, 11:37 AM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 5 2014, 06:08 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 4 2014, 08:20 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 4 2014, 02:27 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 1 2014, 08:45 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Dec 31 2013, 07:40 AM Goku was pumped that a Fusion of Gohan and himself would pulverise Buutenks (we can assume he met a SSJ since the form is more basic). Goku couldn't have meant SSJ against Bootenks because even Bootenks said that he could beat SSJ "Gokan" but didn't wanted to take a chance so Goku meant SSJ3. What you fail to realize is that Buutenks didn't know how big the boost was gonna be he assumed it was gonna be the same as the dance, the same one Goku was confident in using at first, the one Elder Kaioshin doesn't objects just says do you believe Buu is gonna wait for a possible stronger fighter to be born and end him. And even if he didn't want to risk it Gohan's power would have easily overcome Buutenks power due to Goku. The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected=SSJ3 Gogeta (Fusion Dance). The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected (SSJ) = SSJ Gogeta (Fusion Dance). That's a pure conjecture. Boohan was confident of beating Gogeta (means SSJ3 because that's his highest form). Goku knew Potara had a greater effect than Fusion Dance so he believed that only Potara is the only way to beat Boohan. There would be no reason for Goku to fuse via Potara if the Fusion Dance was enough to destroy Boohan. He could've simply preferred that. I was a little off but dude it was Buutenks not Buuhan who was confident, and like I said multiple times, Goku was also confident. Afterward, however, Goku was in a bind to fuse with even Hercule so even with the greater effect do you think Gokule was gonna beat Buuhan? I didn't think so. So that greater effect non-sense isn't all that great as you want it to be. Boohan was confident, Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P9.2 Context: as Goku heads to Vegeta with the Potara Boo: “Now there’s another human with great power! But naturally he’s no match for me, even if they merged!” About Hercule, He was a fly compared to Goku. Goku was 100% sure that both of them fused would lose to Boohan because Hercule was a weakling.
	Super Buu: So, hotshot! You want to fight Majin Buu? Gohan: Fight you? No. I wanna kill you!


Alex D. Boss	Jan 6 2014, 09:39 PM Post #51
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Gogeta needs to be SSJ3 , if he wants to beat Buutenks.



Instant Transmission	Jan 6 2014, 10:00 PM Post #52
Posts: 884 Group: Probation Member #10,599 Joined: December 19, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime you know what, this changes alot.. so fuck it What Browser do you use? Chrome	Gogeta gohan vegeta or normal gogeta? Besides either makes no sense. Gogeta is Vegetto with no Potata boost. The potata's are a bulls*** of an ehancement to someones power they add nothing. Gogeta ( vegeta and gohan) would be stronger than Gogeta and Vegetto.
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+ Solid Snake	Jan 7 2014, 02:44 AM Post #53
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Mightiest Gohan Jan 6 2014, 09:12 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 6 2014, 07:02 PM Mightiest Gohan Jan 5 2014, 11:37 AM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 5 2014, 06:08 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 4 2014, 08:20 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 4 2014, 02:27 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 1 2014, 08:45 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Dec 31 2013, 07:40 AM Goku was pumped that a Fusion of Gohan and himself would pulverise Buutenks (we can assume he met a SSJ since the form is more basic). Goku couldn't have meant SSJ against Bootenks because even Bootenks said that he could beat SSJ "Gokan" but didn't wanted to take a chance so Goku meant SSJ3. What you fail to realize is that Buutenks didn't know how big the boost was gonna be he assumed it was gonna be the same as the dance, the same one Goku was confident in using at first, the one Elder Kaioshin doesn't objects just says do you believe Buu is gonna wait for a possible stronger fighter to be born and end him. And even if he didn't want to risk it Gohan's power would have easily overcome Buutenks power due to Goku. The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected=SSJ3 Gogeta (Fusion Dance). The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected (SSJ) = SSJ Gogeta (Fusion Dance). That's a pure conjecture. Boohan was confident of beating Gogeta (means SSJ3 because that's his highest form). Goku knew Potara had a greater effect than Fusion Dance so he believed that only Potara is the only way to beat Boohan. There would be no reason for Goku to fuse via Potara if the Fusion Dance was enough to destroy Boohan. He could've simply preferred that. I was a little off but dude it was Buutenks not Buuhan who was confident, and like I said multiple times, Goku was also confident. Afterward, however, Goku was in a bind to fuse with even Hercule so even with the greater effect do you think Gokule was gonna beat Buuhan? I didn't think so. So that greater effect non-sense isn't all that great as you want it to be. Boohan was confident, Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P9.2 Context: as Goku heads to Vegeta with the Potara Boo: “Now there’s another human with great power! But naturally he’s no match for me, even if they merged!” About Hercule, He was a fly compared to Goku. Goku was 100% sure that both of them fused would lose to Boohan because Hercule was a weakling. Buutenks claimed he could crush the two fused, but he was also worried a possible Fusion Dance Gogeta (Gohan) would defeat him, and knowing Goku, who later suggests Super Saiyan with the Potara, must mean that he was also willing to use the Super Saiyan state in the Fusion Dance. And I said a million times that Elder Kaioshin never doubts the plan of Fusion, just that the requirements are something Buutenks won't allow. Look at it this way you Alex said that they needs SSJ3 right? So why would they (Goku and Vegeta) need, I'm gonna assume SSJ in this case, SSJ to defeat Super Buu? Super Buu most likely held a 1.2 - 1.4 difference in power over Ultimate Gohan, so even that will likely just force Gogeta to SSJ full powered to minimal SSJ2 power worth of effort. And the Hercule thing was to show you that the effect wasn't nothing to special just something Vegito got due to his rivals merging. That didn't make up the majority his power, as stated by Elder Kaioshin.
	Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig SUPER THANKS CELL Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8434874/1/#new Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8435708/1/#new


Mightiest Gohan	Jan 9 2014, 01:47 PM Post #54
Posts: 1,040 Group: Member Member #10,132 Joined: September 6, 2013	xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 7 2014, 02:44 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 6 2014, 09:12 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 6 2014, 07:02 PM Mightiest Gohan Jan 5 2014, 11:37 AM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 5 2014, 06:08 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 4 2014, 08:20 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 4 2014, 02:27 AM Mightiest Gohan Jan 1 2014, 08:45 PM xGOKUdaSAVIORx Dec 31 2013, 07:40 AM Goku was pumped that a Fusion of Gohan and himself would pulverise Buutenks (we can assume he met a SSJ since the form is more basic). Goku couldn't have meant SSJ against Bootenks because even Bootenks said that he could beat SSJ "Gokan" but didn't wanted to take a chance so Goku meant SSJ3. What you fail to realize is that Buutenks didn't know how big the boost was gonna be he assumed it was gonna be the same as the dance, the same one Goku was confident in using at first, the one Elder Kaioshin doesn't objects just says do you believe Buu is gonna wait for a possible stronger fighter to be born and end him. And even if he didn't want to risk it Gohan's power would have easily overcome Buutenks power due to Goku. The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected=SSJ3 Gogeta (Fusion Dance). The boost for Potara that Bootenks expected (SSJ) = SSJ Gogeta (Fusion Dance). That's a pure conjecture. Boohan was confident of beating Gogeta (means SSJ3 because that's his highest form). Goku knew Potara had a greater effect than Fusion Dance so he believed that only Potara is the only way to beat Boohan. There would be no reason for Goku to fuse via Potara if the Fusion Dance was enough to destroy Boohan. He could've simply preferred that. I was a little off but dude it was Buutenks not Buuhan who was confident, and like I said multiple times, Goku was also confident. Afterward, however, Goku was in a bind to fuse with even Hercule so even with the greater effect do you think Gokule was gonna beat Buuhan? I didn't think so. So that greater effect non-sense isn't all that great as you want it to be. Boohan was confident, Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P9.2 Context: as Goku heads to Vegeta with the Potara Boo: “Now there’s another human with great power! But naturally he’s no match for me, even if they merged!” About Hercule, He was a fly compared to Goku. Goku was 100% sure that both of them fused would lose to Boohan because Hercule was a weakling. Buutenks claimed he could crush the two fused, but he was also worried a possible Fusion Dance Gogeta (Gohan) would defeat him, and knowing Goku, who later suggests Super Saiyan with the Potara, must mean that he was also willing to use the Super Saiyan state in the Fusion Dance. And I said a million times that Elder Kaioshin never doubts the plan of Fusion, just that the requirements are something Buutenks won't allow. Look at it this way you Alex said that they needs SSJ3 right? So why would they (Goku and Vegeta) need, I'm gonna assume SSJ in this case, SSJ to defeat Super Buu? Super Buu most likely held a 1.2 - 1.4 difference in power over Ultimate Gohan, so even that will likely just force Gogeta to SSJ full powered to minimal SSJ2 power worth of effort. And the Hercule thing was to show you that the effect wasn't nothing to special just something Vegito got due to his rivals merging. That didn't make up the majority his power, as stated by Elder Kaioshin. Again, you ignored Boohan's statment. He was confident that he would beat Gogeta meaning SSJ3 Gogeta. Goku was informed of the greater effect already by Elder Kai. The effect was special. What Goku says is that Hercule might make him weaker. Not probably and think he might go up, if only slightly. So at the end of the day he will get stronger. No reason to think otherwise really.
	Super Buu: So, hotshot! You want to fight Majin Buu? Gohan: Fight you? No. I wanna kill you!


+ Solid Snake	Jan 9 2014, 11:21 PM Post #55
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	I'm not ignoring anything I know for a fact that Buuhan would crush SSJ3 Gogeta, hence why Goku continually advices the Potara. But Goku didnt know if they measure up to Buuhan's but gave it a shot, but knew THOSE two fused would power up considerably, so at least: Buuhan > SSJ Vegito (expected) = SSJ Gogeta (Gohan) > Buutenks > SSJ Gogeta (Vegeta)
	Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig SUPER THANKS CELL Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8434874/1/#new Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8435708/1/#new


Mightiest Gohan	Jan 12 2014, 08:24 AM Post #56
Posts: 1,040 Group: Member Member #10,132 Joined: September 6, 2013	xGOKUdaSAVIORx Jan 9 2014, 11:21 PM I'm not ignoring anything I know for a fact that Buuhan would crush SSJ3 Gogeta, hence why Goku continually advices the Potara. But Goku didnt know if they measure up to Buuhan's but gave it a shot, but knew THOSE two fused would power up considerably, so at least: Buuhan > SSJ Vegito (expected) = SSJ Gogeta (Gohan) > Buutenks > SSJ Gogeta (Vegeta) Goku already knew about Potara greater effects when asking Elder Kai so Gogeta or Metamorian Gokan has nothing to do with it. Vegito (expected) was above Boohan. It's not that he's surprised he's beating Boo, its because he surprised he's beating Boo so badly.
	Super Buu: So, hotshot! You want to fight Majin Buu? Gohan: Fight you? No. I wanna kill you!


+ Majin Vegeta	Jan 12 2014, 09:01 PM Post #57
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Instant Transmission Jan 6 2014, 10:00 PM Gogeta gohan vegeta or normal gogeta? Besides either makes no sense. Gogeta is Vegetto with no Potata boost. The potata's are a bulls*** of an ehancement to someones power they add nothing. Gogeta ( vegeta and gohan) would be stronger than Gogeta and Vegetto. Vegito oneshots Gokhan and Gogeta combine, the Potara boost is the fusion itshelf.
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


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